now sha now, the big thing coming down the line is the pension issue for the teachers. >> paul: big, big payments due coming to the state, each year, several hundred million dollars. colin, rahm emanuel might say, you want this perfect, but these things take time. we've got incremental change, that's the way that the system work and foot in the day on teacher evacuations, and what's wrong with that? >> what's wrong with that, paul, the students there now are going to suffer in the interim. if you look at this, you basically have-- this is a civil rights issue, under 60% of chicago students are graduating from high school and in the really bad neighborhoods, it's even worse than that. so, those students are being failed right now and that's not something that can necessarily wait. they had a chance here, i think, to fight a little bit harder, but they didn't for, i think, partially political reasons.